Is that Dragonforce?

First comment.

fffsdfff

Yeah, got a little chuckle out of it. I liked how u...eh...^^^|^^^ did that. very nice, very nice.

((i voted 5))

Personally I hope that video submissions don't become the next step for NG. The occasional video submission is fine (as long as it's something made with effort, and worth seeing- like your most recent one), but I'm pretty sure if video submissions became common, then about 90% of them would suck hard, and besides that- it would attract unwanted attention to Newgrounds from those youtube-esque people you mentioned.

Very few people could make good videos (though you hit it) and also NG will begin to get random porn etc. so I believe videos should be alowed but only to flash artists who have earned it.
If that is what it alredy does then thats good :)
BTW - you rock on the guitar :)

aclaro, no vi tu video (no me gustan los videos)

no me gustaria ver a NG convertido en otro youtube, muchos videos al pedo sin nada interesante y que solo sirven para que los vean unos pocos (tus familiares, amigos, algunos boludos que le gustan ver culos, etc), es por eso que no me gustaria que NG admitiera videos, si, por otro lado, videos fusionados con flash, al mejor estilo de My New Grounds de Allen Awesome, una idea original y entretenida.

en resumen, prefiero que NG siga solo admitiendo animaciones flash (suficiente tenemos con el SPAM del portal, al menos, la KK se mato haicendo una buena intro en sus videos), el portal esta joya asi como esta, los videos, dejenselos a youtube y las demas paginas que lo imitan.

NOW THE ENGLISH VERSION (sorry for my english, i hope you understand me):

first to all, i dont see your video (i dont like videos)

i dont like to see NG become in another Youtube, that page have a lot of unfunnies pointless videos and another one who just see a few persons (videos from birthdays partys, night with friends, idiots who follows girls with tigh jeans, etc), that why i dont accept videos on NG, eccept of course, videos fusioned with flash, like My New Grounds from Allen Awesome, an original and funny idea.

Making short the thing", i preffer that NG just admit flash movies (enough we have with the portal spam, almost, the KK make a good intro for his crappy movies), leave the movies for youtube and his clone pages.

That's why we got youtube!

If you want to make a live action vid, without cutting the file size to 10mb, then go to youtube, Google, or MyspaceTV.

That's why I stopped.

The file size is really the only problem for me

Live video is always something you look forward to on Newgrounds, because only someone who works hard enough to fix all the ridiculous issues with it has something good to show.

I don't think Newgrounds should move beyond the Flash medium for the meantime. I think our current standard and voting system of Flash-only works well, and causes less judging confusion. But again, if someone really wants to show something in video, they at least have a way if they work their ass off.

-J

Holy shit, a Persuader t-shirt. You rock, man!

I don't like videos on NG and I definitely thing YouTube is for that. I once submitted a video based on a flash movie hoping that it would do good since it's based on flash movie but no luck. I got criticized by comments like "this is not youtube", "this belongs to youtube". Well, I agree. Although it had a good score I removed it.

However, I definitely think that we should have an option to embed youtube videos in news posts because I'd like to see videos of flash artists, not in the portal but instead here. There. I'm gonna be honest now by saying I'm gonna downvote your movie and say that this is not youtube :) Since you have a huge following you shouldn't have a problem getting a good score on this.

Awesome video btw. Very funny.

The funny thing is, Newgrounds once had a video section, years ago... The original purpose of NG was to be pure entertainment, not really confined to any one medium, but I became such a cheerleader for Flash that I brushed everything else aside.

Currently, I think video is ok if it is from someone who is active in the community... It makes me sad when active NG contributors leave because we no longer offer the right place for their work - and this is happening more and more as artists start to animate with other tools and choose to submit their final works to YouTube and not Newgrounds.

Eventually we might create a category for video, but under the current restrictions of video in .swf format... And ultimately, we still consider a video portal on a regular basis, but it would probably be invite-only for specific artists who qualify. We've always wanted a video portal - since long before YouTube existed - but we never made one for exactly what sucks about YouTube... The endless video spam (and legal issues). I would never want all the hard work on NG to be overshadowed by shit like some 15 year old girl's video blog. People get insulted enough when their hard work gets beat by sprite movies. :)

Sweet, another addition of legit flash to cleanse the filth on newgrounds.

You rock my socks.

I am fine with your video work, because you have proven with this and the Knee that you are capable of being mature about having video submissions. But I am also worried that if videos are accepted, people are going to spam much more often. CC flash and such are like 2 KB, but if 1,000 people spam their crap on a daily basis (which is a fraction of Youtube spam), the site will explode.

I like Newgrounds as a largely flash portal, just because it has been like this since I first stumbled across the site in 2002. I hope it stays that way, but I think if there are good restrictions on it, they can stay. I don't want people making video blogs, recreating 2 Girls 1 Cup with sock puppets, or acting out the Teletubbies.

Michael Angelo Batio beats Dragonforce. You need to get two Xbox Explorer controllers and fuse them together, Batio style. That would be the sex. (http://www.geocities.com/fullshred_20 00/GuitarcollectionJuly2006020.jpg)

Commenting on your video, I hope you play strapless, too. I think I'm one of the few who do. It gives you plenty of room to ham it up. When all you can do is vocals, it's nice to pretend you are talented. : D

Oh I get it now. Afro ninja. You have a afro.

Stunning.

you can make your own band!

that was gay you are gay

Did you really smash your guitar?

I really dont see anything wrong with video, as long as it's done well.
Your video was cool, but at first i thought you were really that good at guitar hero. It was a bit of a disappointment for me when i found out the guitar hero footage was from another guy. But it was still edited well and i enjoyed watching it!

I think that video submissions are not bad. Theres just so many crappy ones out there people stereotype them as being horrible and automatically vote it down.

Overall, Video submissions can be win if they are done right and have a purpose.

I don't have a problem with video submissions. Most are quite nice, eg. Awesome Video Games and some Press Start stuff. Anyway... What bugs me is when something like, a guy works 8 months on an animation only for it to be beaten by something some kid did up in his garage with a video camera in 3 hours.
Video submissions would have to be voted on differently then flash, they're too different. Combining flash elements and live action is another thing though. Having animated characters run around in a real enviroment is always interesting. I experimented with it in my last 'toon.
But yeah, bottum line for me. Video submissions are fine but we really should at least encourage users to vote differently on 'em and get 'em their own collection page.

if that Klay World faggot can submit his play dough movies i think you can safely submit yours.

Ever seen anything by Fronk & Dego? Look them up, they have video submissions, and they weren't that half ass to be true.

I love you Afro Ninja.

did you realy break your guitar and did it work arfter you fix it?

It should be a seperate part of Newgrounds all these flashes, but I dont think they should be removed.

PJ DOES NOT APPROVE

i don't think videos should be submitted.

Honestly, I don't like video submissions on here. There are more than enough video portals out there, so why do we need video's in a flash portal?

the closest thing to video collections on NG is the clay collection or the awesome video games section. But you make a point, crappy videos are for youtube not NG

Tell how it was made or direct me to somewhere where it's explained pl0x

I vote no, too many site's doing video already, why do something that's been done so much already? Unless NG can think of an innovative way to do it that integrates with the current site, I think it'd be a bad move.

ooh maaaan ^^ YOU are a hero ! ^^

we need a collection for the guitar hero franchise.

I think video submissions should be allowed if they prominently use Flash within them, like Webcamoose.

I agree with tom, video's with the effort of yours should be the only ones allowed, as in exclusives to the best artists.
That video is sooo awesome btw! :D

First of all... I really liked your video. I think that video submissions should be allowed on NG, but they should fit in the style of NG (the randomness, funny etc).

Per Staser? Is that what it says on your shirt?
I want it, just for what it says on the back :p

You bring up a good topic here with video, and I think it most certainty has been in the back of the minds of the NG staff and a number of NG users like myself, who enjoy making videos. The topic is a very difficult one indeed. As of now I think it's safe to say that NG is doing things right with the Flash-only content, the site is a huge success, Flash gives us enough options that we can have a large variety of content. Now with video, things get different. I love video, as long as its properly edited and well made. Now I do enjoy seeing video files in the portal because they are usually pretty good knowing that not every NG user can make a video. Yea, it might be nice to have a .swf file that can play .flv's but I don't think that NG really would do good with a new section, simplicity is important.

Here are what I see as the pros of having a potential video section:

-We have a place to keep videos separated from animations
-We attract more artists/developers to the site by giving them something to work with

The Cons:

-How would the section be monitored and made sure it stays true to NG content and not some tards submitting videoblogs?
-How much extra work would that place on the NG staff, they already do a lot?
-File Size is a pain
-What benefits would this really have over the portal since the video files is still played with a flash player? Maybe some, but, it seems like too much pain for the little gain.

In my mind I think we should keep the video section on hold, submit it to the flash portal if you wish, we don't want a NG-tube thing going on altough I do enjoy most of the videos that we get on NG. Flash is constantly making improvements on video and it will definatly be seen on the web more so we may just have to see where the flash player takes us.

And I personally don't believe that videos are an easy way to get on the front page, I think they take just as much time to make as some of these animations and are voted on fairly.

I don't mind seeing videos on Newgrounds, mainly because like you said, people have put a lot of effort into getting it into flash and it will therefore probably be half decent, otherwise they wouldn't have went to said effort.

Take that effort away with a video portal, and the spam submissions will come in their droves. So yeah, keep things the way they are is my two cents :)

Hey dude how old is PJ?

it made me smile, must have taken a while to put it all together, and also another question what band is that t shirt of it was bugging me all the way through

i like video submissons cause that means not only i can submit to the portal but also NG is becomeing more acceptant of hilarious videos not made in flash

Dude you are so totally awesome but you have freaky hair

It's the direction that people who can't animate want to go in.

I'm hoping Newgrounds will never take that path. It's already pathetic enough that there are nearly entirely video submissions out there getting daily awards, some getting Daily Feature, Weekly First, and Review Crew Pick. I'm speaking of course, with that last comment, about "My New Grounds".
This is probably the most vastly overrated submission I've seen in my entire three years on Newgrounds. I mean, wow. That would've taken half an hour to create. And it's higher rated than Adam Philip's masterpieces?

If video comes on here it will dominate solely because it's easy to produce and people don't think, "Well, geez, the flash takes way more effort and time."
Nah, they'll just go, "LOL OMG!" and vote five.
Animation will quickly disappear. And you'll have another YouTube.

Hot girls will submit videos of themselves in tight little tshirts and underwear dancing around.
They'll become the most popular submissions on NG.

People will being submitting video of themselves simply talking to their webcam about something they don't like.

Kids will record themselves dancing or playing their favorite video game or both, without a trace of humor in it, and win Daily Second.

And as several little kids here pointed out, "I like video submissions because they I can submit to the portal".
Well, there goes talent. Any kid with a webcam can submit something and not get blammed.

Were it put to a vote, people would obviously be in favor of video because they can do it, it's easy, and they haven't thought of the consequences.

Tom was talking about not wanting animators to leave, but I can guarantee you quite a few would.
So many guys now are getting sick of hentai, sprites, and video submissions swarming all the flash sites.
I've talked to quite a few immensely talented animators who have their own sites and only stick their stuff there. Many of them once upon a time submitted their earlier not as good movies. I ask them why they don't submit to Newgrounds still or at all.
They'll usually reply, "Because Newgrounds has become like all the other sites. Quality means NOTHING. Unoriginality and lack of effort are applauded, while the good stuff is ignored."
It's very true these days.

You have beautiful eyes.

NO HOMO

I can't say I'm a fan of video submissions. I'd go to YouTube if I wanted those. If worst comes to worst, we could have a video section, but I hope it doesn't come to that. Video sites bring out the worst in internet fads and shitty talent.
No offense.

Masquatto, Chromeshark, and Vengeance kind of sum it up for me. I realize Flash live video is hard to make but still it is infinitly easier to do then flash. While some of the flash out there might be crappy animation wise it still takes an hour to do what a video does in a minute. I don't mind some live Flash (Like Claymation) and there are already a few Live action videos on Newgrounds that have set the precedent that mostly live action videos can be submitted, but the fact remains; Live Action is alot easier then Flash Animation. It's unfair to many authours that a website dedicated to their hard creations that consume YEARS of effort are judged and rated alongside something that can be done thoroughly within a week by those with Webcam or Video Camera.

There are already countless other websites that incorporate Video and Flash or just video. Newgrounds is still one of the only 'pure' Flash sites around. I see this often when you stumble upon a Flash Cartoon on say Ebaums world or Youtube labelled as 'New' when it's been on Newgrounds for months. Damn near everything Flash originates from here. The point of this rant is that there are enough sites out there for those who want to submit Live Action videos. Newgrounds doesn't need to be sullied with an influx of virals.

If people plan on using Live Action in their Flashes try to go about it like the Tomorrow's Nobodies Crew. They have the right idea.

If you want an example of why Live Action should not be on Newgrounds search 'Numa Numa'.

Regardless it's apparent that people can submit Live Action and more then likely will do so in the future. So nothing I rant about can necessarily change that!
Like I said though, there is enough outlets on the internet for those kind of videos, and to have them start being posted on Newgrounds to be judged along side such great Flash films and artists like Dave of RAB fame, EricSullivan of Sunday School fame, or Adam Phillips of Brackenwood fame is horribly unfair.

Afro-Ninja, I know you are a Flash artist and realize the amount of work that go into Flash's better then most. And I know it sounds like my rant is against your 2nd place but it's not since you have already taken your licks. There's already enough people trying to flood the Portal with viral, 2 hour creation flash's. I can only imagine the chaos that would ensue if Newgrounds began incorporating Live Action on a mass scale, not to mention the eventual obscurity it'd probably fall into.

Thanks for the debate, hope you take nothing too personal.

If it's a good video, than I think it's fine for Newgrounds, in my opinion. Useless video blogs and nonsense like that really doesn't belong here, but vids and the like that are actually worth a laugh should be more than welcome.

Waffle Truck is pro video.

Bloody Hell!!! This is YOU!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB8ufd pgb_I ALL HAIL AFRO!!!

Video's still a relatively unexplored medium on newgrounds. I have in my time seen videos which would have been more accustomed to youtube in the portal (two fat children miming to Linken Park), but then stuff like My Newgrounds are just plain entertaining. I want video submissions to remain as an enigmatic and refreshing medium, but I don't think they will. In that case, newgrounds will have to cater to them.

I don't think anything on NG has produced this much controversy since the Tom Fulp 'Teletubbies" incident. However, that was more public. The point is, if it's bad, I blam the crap out of it! If it's good, I protect it like an endangered species. And that's that. I don't see any problem with video on newgrounds; as Tom said, NG once had a video section (I visited the site way before I had an account). Plus, not everyone can embed a video, like you mentoned. I also don't see any problem with artists expressing themselves in other ways. I have my own definitions of what isn't worthy of this site, and what is. Sure, no one cares and that's my point! Lot's of people in the comments for this post either accept video, or think NG will become the next Youtube. I don't think for a million years that the NG citizens would allow that to happen (thank you Blam and Protect!), so in the end, I like your videos (The Knee FTW) and as long as NG citizens are careful as to what comes on this site, we'll be fine.

Yeah, there should a be a video/flash portal, with the video being able to be reported if it breaks the rules ( like people get mass voting to get their v-blogs in)

Meh, I've seen so many videos on youtube and other sites, that I just don't see a purpose of adding a video portal. Your video wasn't bad, I 2'd it none the less. Just as I 0 "My New Grounds" now. It's not against your video, I just don't watch videos on Newgrounds, to see videos of real people. I watch it for corny little bits of cartoons. It's like Cartoon Network. It has "Cartoon" in it's name, yet they're trying to make shows with real people in it? It doesn't make sense.

Saying that though, it would be nice if I could contribute to Newgrounds. You see, I'm not artistic with a brush, pencil or anything like that. But I could do a lot more with a camera, as could a lot of people. It would make people that aren't as talented with flash, to feel as if they too could somehow contribute to the community.

I guess I'm a bit on both sides of the "issue". All in all, none of us have a say in this, admins do, and even if they decided to okay a video portal, it'd be months/years before we'd see it. As is the way of NG Chat and the Redesign.

your awesome man nice work anyways!!Sad you broke the guitar lol doesnt it cost like 20$or something??Nice afro man next time get your ninja suit lol!!continue your job man!:) POWER METAL!

i dont think video submissions should be removed for say but they should be submitted in small quaninties, like the"numa-numa" for example though not a flash forsay but it has brought newgrounds alot of attention.

so removed? no. not at all

I think video submissions do belong here on Newgrounds. If your motto is "Everything, By Everyone" you shouldn't restrict the medium. I also don't think Newgrounds would explode from spam. Videos that are crap will be blamed, users are only allowed to submit 2 submissions a day, and pornographic material is flagged, with these two restrictions I don't see Newgrounds being covered in anymore spam.

I must say YOU ARE A GUITAR HERO!!! :D

It is a tricky subject because if video is allowed where do you draw the line. I think the recent 'My Newgrounds' post was fine because it composited different elements, them being video and flash. I have recently created a composited video and am greatly debating placing it here because whilst it certainly is no video blog, I respect the flash animators who work really hard and I know how long true animation takes.

I'm sure with a community like NG they would still blam 90% of the rubbish that Youtube submits so it may work.

I say: Be like Allen Awesome... Or Gary for that matter ;)

I think you deliver quality work so I think we shouldn't bitch about the videos thing but I do think that a video portal is not good.. Don't let NG turn into another Youtube or whatever..

Also about your compression issue.
You're 8-9 minute video is out of the norm. I was able to post a ~50 second video at the highest quality (the footage was NTSC-DV and it was compressed at high/96kps) at about 4.5 mb. Size really isn't that much issue.

Sorry for the double post, but why not just a video collection instead of a new portal? I would say that is a fair compromise for now and less work for NG coders.

The only thing that would have made your video better would be the addition of the " afro-ninja theme song" http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/liste n/106871 .
CHEEZY SELF ADVERT! OH SNAP!

-jason
KTRECORDS

Haha, that ruled x)

But why did you wreck your guitar? It must be like.. 200 bucks? The hell what i know.. I'm a dumb teenager that comes from a very cold country.. You know which it is? Here's some alternatives:

A: Norway
B: Russia
c: Svalbard

Good luck, and Gods speed! I'll wait for your answere...

Fived it.

Adding to favorites.

:-)

Video is good to an extent. At some point, you'll need to realize this is a flash site.

And speaking of Guitar Hero, I was instantly reminded of this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/artic les/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2 716-Zero-Punctuation-Guitar-Hero-III

it was an alright video, not amazingly creative, but alright nonetheless. But I don't think videos belong on newgrounds, nor does it need a video section. There's lots of sites for it with lots of viewers, there's no need for newgrounds to get crowded with that. The amount of video it receives is fine with me.

First off, your Guitar Hero video was incredibly awesome and well done! I definitely think it deserved the front page.

Secondly, videos should be more than welcome to Newgrounds. There could be maybe rules and guidelines as to what type of video should be able to go through the portal. Video blogs could possibly be a feature specifically for the user page, and not the portal.

One other thing. What do you mean by "not anyone can submit a video"? Does a Newgrounds member have to get permission in order to submit videos?

kool you are the same nice

Super Awesome i know a guy who can beat thrugh fir and flames on expert, but still col video

there should be a seperate section in my opinion.

the guitar hero video was good.

WTF? u have clones?

You play like teh gawdz! :D
Will you let me give birth to your afro headed babies? ^w^

sooo....how exactly can you make video again?

Good movie!Ps: When does ng is under attack pt3 come out???

Someone had too much free-time on their hands...

there should be a video portal. however, people will start to submit their shit homemade porno tapes and before we know it, newgrounds will have a bra hanging off a penis as it's logo.

bob

ur my hero mr tanner. i visitd ur site. its pheominal.

I loved this video, especially the driving part. But i think video submissions can be hard. Some, like this and numa nima have been front paged and loved, but when an artist submits a video to the portal, people will say ," leave it on youtube" so i dont know, keep the dosage small?

Personally, I think there should be a video section on NG because it requires editing and you can even do Flash in it, Oh and sorry for the How To Edit A Website thread I posted. I didn't realize people on that thread were so defensive lol.

I personally am not a fan of video submissions here on NG, especially those damn claymations... But seeing as you are WELL known here, and it is an epic video, I would say it's OK here. But in all fairness, if it was a submission from some person that no one heard of before, it probably would be removed... Yes NG is a flash only site, but seeing as video submissions still survive on here, not being blammed or being just plain removed, I would guess they are allowed. The half a second lag isn't really that noticeable with the rapid notes, but the single notes was when it really came out.

And what was the percentage on that? must of been over 90% or so :D

Hey I live in Elyria let me play please.

Maybe you could play Dragonforce's Fury of the Storm on Guitar Hero, without any faults? If you can, videotape it and put in on... I don't know... NG and Youtube? cuz like most of the Guitar Heroes on Youtube kinda suck...

I saw the afro. but then that "Ninja" part... Sword? nope. Dark suit? nope again... How "Ninja" is that?

Great work.

Kick a midget.

The thing is, people just aren't strict enough with blams. I've heard that they were once, but now, tons of stuff that just shouldn't be saved, passes Judgment. So what evidence is there to say that crappy random video logs won't pass? I mean, there's plenty of crap and spam filling the Portal already, so video logs and random stupidity would just be the next step in the YouTubification of Newgrounds. Not that video should be banned or anything, after all, the biggest thing to come out of Newgrounds was Numa Numa, and some of the My NG movies aren't too terrible, but I don't quite know about allowing it in large quantities either.

Perhaps there should be a process similar to the one in the Audio Portal, where a hypothetical video mod would review videos, determine if they're NG appropriate, and ban users who submit crappy videos. Then a "Video Portal" would be established, where these videos would be showcased. At the same time, home movies would be discouraged on the Portal, either by the Whistle or by other means. That way, home movies would find a place here, but would not overrun the real Portal. Oh, and like in the Audio Portal, these video submissions, in this scenario, wouldn't count for points, adding a protection against YouTubification.

It was so funny! I love the part when you karate chop the guitar like you were giving it a back massage, so funny. BTW how far can you get on the song expert, I can get about 22%. Anyways, great video.

I like vidoe submissions here, specially "Magic Mentos".

It's a classic.

Is video a step in the next direction for NG? Maybe. It's a step in the next direction for me. Making games has always been my thing, with a little bit of animation thrown in there too. But I just want to entertain people, that doesn't mean it has to be with a flash game. Video is fun to make, it's more engaging than sitting in front of the computer all day and typing lines of code. Just enough to be a nice break in between making your next game or animation. I think other developers could agree :)

your great on making stuffs
u should be an ADMIN. bcuz ur one of the best flash animator that ever contributed flashes on newgrounds...
u should try it u know

man NG sim is so addictive amd fun, good work.

videos as good as that are worthy of newgrounds :D

ok this is the question from the video and im going to say it again here
so do you have a twin?

Lol PJ does not approve